I have been upgrading our old physical servers and turning them into fresh
from scratch BM 3.9sp1 VM's on ESX 3.5 and it seems that every time I end up
running into problems with Windows Updates and even some Java updates. Not
immediately but soon after the install most Windows updates start to fail.
I am wondering if there is some kind of incompatibility with the vmdk
volumes. I am using the recommended traditional file system on the cache
volumes etc as per TID's and Craig's very helpful book.
Anyone else had issues with Vmware setups?
Thanks
Darcy

I use the very setup with no problems. Of course you can see WU being a
pain even if you use physical server. Some settings from Craig's
proxy.cfg should help. Or use local WSUS server (which is the best
option IMO)

Seb


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Darcy Gibbons;1681646 Wrote:
> I have been upgrading our old physical servers and turning them into
> fresh
> from scratch BM 3.9sp1 VM's on ESX 3.5 and it seems that every time I
> end up
> running into problems with Windows Updates and even some Java updates.
> Darcy
Hi Darcy,

I have used esx as a bm39 test bed (and as a backup) and have the same
problems as I have with a physical bm.
Windows updates sometimes fail,
one: can't download updates, proxy -cc fixes this
two: can't genuine check, need to check using ie and not the download.
I have java updates turned off and use zen to prompt a version update
if I feel this is needed. (same for adobe reader).


Don't let people tell you it is a vmware problem, the os thinks it is
on bare metal hardware so treat it as so until you have explorered all
of the possibilities.


Breezer


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Hi,

Darcy Gibbons wrote:
>
> I have been upgrading our old physical servers and turning them into fresh
> from scratch BM 3.9sp1 VM's on ESX 3.5 and it seems that every time I end up
> running into problems with Windows Updates and even some Java updates.

What windows updates? Automatic, or through the browser?

But in general, I agree with Breezer here. In my experience, windows
update through BM plain doesn't work and never did, and that isn't
dependant if it's a VM or not. I know there are people that claim it
works, but I have yet to see a single BM that has it working
consistantly *through the proxy*. I also agree that you should use WSUS
(which can download through proxy just fine).

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Yes, through the browser.
Thanks everyone for the input, I will look at setting up a WSUS server for
the network, hopefully not terribly involved setup on that.
Maybe the updates just happened to work more reliably on 3.6 & 3.7, so I
noticed it now with 3.9.

"Massimo Rosen" <mrosenno@spamcfc-it.de> wrote in message
news:4923241B.F7F85AFF@spamcfc-it.de...
> Hi,
>
> Darcy Gibbons wrote:
>>
>> I have been upgrading our old physical servers and turning them into
>> fresh
>> from scratch BM 3.9sp1 VM's on ESX 3.5 and it seems that every time I end
>> up
>> running into problems with Windows Updates and even some Java updates.
>
> What windows updates? Automatic, or through the browser?
>
> But in general, I agree with Breezer here. In my experience, windows
> update through BM plain doesn't work and never did, and that isn't
> dependant if it's a VM or not. I know there are people that claim it
> works, but I have yet to see a single BM that has it working
> consistantly *through the proxy*. I also agree that you should use WSUS
> (which can download through proxy just fine).
>
> CU,
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> Massimo Rosen
> Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
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> http://www.cfc-it.de

In article <4923241B.F7F85AFF@spamcfc-it.de>, Massimo Rosen wrote:
> but I have yet to see a single BM that has it working
> consistantly *through the proxy*.
>
The ones at my office due. I constantly have my PC there getting
windows updates. I finally had to set it up not to automatically apply
them and reboot as it created havoc for my remote control setup.

It does seem to work slower though...

I have to use the proxycfg -U command on the PC to get things working.

Craig Johnson
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