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Green Cast Using Printer Profiles
Old 07-17-2008, 04:32 AM #1
Chris Nicola
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I am having difficulty using printer profiles with CD11. In tools/color
management I set optimise for desktop printing. I click on the printer
(Epson 1290) and select the desired paper profile. The printer properties
are set to the correct paper settings and "No color management". However the
test print prints with a green cast. Using the same profile when printing
from Photoshop Elements 6 prints fine.

I would appreciate any suggestions that might help me successfully print
using profiles in CD11 as I do a lot of printing from there. At the moment I
am forced to turn color management off to avoid the green cast.


Kind Regards
Chris



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Old 07-17-2008, 11:54 AM #2
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Chris,

Both CorelDRAW and your printer have color management. When you turn it on
in CorelDRAW, do you also turn it off in your printer?


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Re: Green Cast Using Printer Profiles
Old 07-17-2008, 05:14 PM #3
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Thanks for the reply Foster.

I have been informed by the Epson Yahoo Forum that selecting "No Color
Adjustmentent" in the Epson Driver will effectively shut off the printer
color management. This is not the default setting but the setting is
selected in the Epson printer preferences in the Corel print window just
before printing. Unfortunately I haver never succeeded in getting a print
to print successfully with Corel color management switched on. Either I am
doing something wrong, or there there is a compatibility issue with CD11 and
my Epson 1290 printer.

Kind Regards
Chris

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Chris,

Both CorelDRAW and your printer have color management. When you turn it on
in CorelDRAW, do you also turn it off in your printer?

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Re: Green Cast Using Printer Profiles
Old 07-17-2008, 07:59 PM #4
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Chris,

There will be experts who disagree with my workflow, but it works for me.

When printing, I turn OFF Corel's color management and rely on the color
management in my printer. When sending a PDF to my printer (the person), I
send it with all RGB data. As anyone who attended the CorelDRAW Unleashed
User Conference last week got to see, our Conference Guide looked fantastic.

So I wouldn't worry about using printer profiles in Draw. There are other
areas of color management that I do find important and I document this all
in my CorelDRAW X4 Unleashed book.


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Old 07-18-2008, 10:23 AM #5
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"Foster D. Coburn III" <foster--remove--@unleash.com> wrote in message
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> send it with all RGB data. As anyone who attended the CorelDRAW Unleashed
> User Conference last week got to see, our Conference Guide looked
> fantastic.


as an unbiased attendeespeaker to the conference, I will say that yes, the
Guide was very pretty. All the materials of mine that were printed looked
great! And, yes Foster, I would be honest and say it looked bad if I felt it
didn't look good. :)



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Re: Green Cast Using Printer Profiles
Old 07-22-2008, 01:24 PM #6
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Foster,

Just when I was feeling comfortable....

I noted your comments about sending RGB color files to your
"printer-person". I was recently brainwashed by OUR printer-person that
"CMYK was for printing and RGB was for viewing".

Interesting... at the risk of starting a whole new thread, complete with
opposite points of view, what's your take on that?

Bob Weaver
Color Impaired and Confused
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>
> Chris,
>
> There will be experts who disagree with my workflow, but it works for me.
>
> When printing, I turn OFF Corel's color management and rely on the color
> management in my printer. When sending a PDF to my printer (the person), I
> send it with all RGB data. As anyone who attended the CorelDRAW Unleashed
> User Conference last week got to see, our Conference Guide looked
> fantastic.
>
> So I wouldn't worry about using printer profiles in Draw. There are other
> areas of color management that I do find important and I document this all
> in my CorelDRAW X4 Unleashed book.
>
>
> --
> Foster D. Coburn III
> CorelDRAW Unleashed
> http://www.coreldrawunleashed.com
> Books, Boot Camps, Conferences and Magazines
>
>
>




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Re: Green Cast Using Printer Profiles
Old 07-22-2008, 03:52 PM #7
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Bob,

The right answer is what gives you the best output.

Almost all of our printed materials is done on a digital press (Xerox
Docucolor 5000). I had sent them CMYK PDFs and was disappointed that colors
weren't as vibrant. I've got the icc profile for the device. I have my
monitor calibrated. Basically everything on my end was set up and I was
still disappointed.

So I tried turning off the calibration and making an RGB PDF. The printed
page was much more vibrant. Basically we are leaving the conversion to the
RIP on the Docucolor 5000.

So here it really depends on your overall goal. My goal is not a dead-on
match between screen and printer. My goal is the best looking print. The RGB
workflow gives me that result and certainly makes things easier on me since
I design everything in RGB to start since the majority of our finished work
is electronic and not printed.

If anybody wants to use our printer (the person), http://www.jcprinting.net
... Yes, they have all the "dark side" apps, but they also have CorelDRAW
there.


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Old 07-22-2008, 04:12 PM #8
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Foster,

Your reply makes sense, especially when you don't have to deal with multiple
workflows.

We're using a printer in "another country, far, far away" for our full color
work, and they are apparently a "CMYK shop".

What really gets me going is when our publisher does a simple page in
(pardon the profanity) Word that he thinks is black and inserts the page in
a file that is CMYK! E-mails fly over thousands of miles of open ocean for
days before things get made right. It got so bad the pre-press person at
the printer told me they now just automatically convert the "black" RGB to
CMYK and leave sleeping Panda's snoring!

I've come to the realization that the "person in charge of color output" at
Micro$oft has never even heard of CMYK, or thinks that using three inks will
reduce their "greenhouse gas" footprint, or something! :>)

Take the rest of the day off! :>0

Bob

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> Bob,
>
> The right answer is what gives you the best output.
>
> Almost all of our printed materials is done on a digital press (Xerox
> Docucolor 5000). I had sent them CMYK PDFs and was disappointed that
> colors weren't as vibrant. I've got the icc profile for the device. I have
> my monitor calibrated. Basically everything on my end was set up and I was
> still disappointed.
>
> So I tried turning off the calibration and making an RGB PDF. The printed
> page was much more vibrant. Basically we are leaving the conversion to the
> RIP on the Docucolor 5000.
>
> So here it really depends on your overall goal. My goal is not a dead-on
> match between screen and printer. My goal is the best looking print. The
> RGB workflow gives me that result and certainly makes things easier on me
> since I design everything in RGB to start since the majority of our
> finished work is electronic and not printed.
>
> If anybody wants to use our printer (the person),
> http://www.jcprinting.net .. Yes, they have all the "dark side" apps, but
> they also have CorelDRAW there.
>
>
> --
> Foster D. Coburn III
> CorelDRAW Unleashed
> http://www.coreldrawunleashed.com
> Books, Boot Camps, Conferences and Magazines
>
>
>




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Re: Green Cast Using Printer Profiles
Old 07-30-2008, 11:47 AM #9
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Thanks for the input. I will try and print letting the printer do colour
management and see what happens. On the Epson Printers Yahoo site nobody
seems to recommend this approach but then they are mostly using photoshop
CS2 or CS3.

So to let the printer do colour management do I just select the paper from
the driver and using Start/Printer folder/ Printer/Properties/colour
management/ Manually choose profile from the list for the paper?


Kind Regards
Chris
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> Chris,
>
> There will be experts who disagree with my workflow, but it works for me.
>
> When printing, I turn OFF Corel's color management and rely on the color
> management in my printer. When sending a PDF to my printer (the person), I
> send it with all RGB data. As anyone who attended the CorelDRAW Unleashed
> User Conference last week got to see, our Conference Guide looked
> fantastic.
>
> So I wouldn't worry about using printer profiles in Draw. There are other
> areas of color management that I do find important and I document this all
> in my CorelDRAW X4 Unleashed book.
>
>
> --
> Foster D. Coburn III
> CorelDRAW Unleashed
> http://www.coreldrawunleashed.com
> Books, Boot Camps, Conferences and Magazines
>
>
>




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