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11-23-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Removing transparency
When I said that your finished product looked very good, I should have said
that it was absolutely wonderful! My neighbour would be over the moon if I
could do that for her. I actually have 6 similar photos to sort out for
her.
I've tried all the combinations on Paint version 8 and I cannot find any
blur effects which do anything like you have produced. A couple of them did
nothing at all!
I used the freehand mask.
Anti-aliasing and feathering were difficult to find.
I had to create a mask first then right click to find the options.
Tool settings roll-up gsve me feathering and anti-aliasing - set to 3.
You said that you created the mask in a clever way, did this help in the
blurring process?
How exactly did you do this?
Cheers
Dave
"Dave Robinson" <Dave.W.Robinson@Which.Net> wrote in message
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> Matt,
> Thanks for the info, the finished product looks very good indeed.
> I have just had a quick look at my version (8) and I only have the
> following:-
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> Effects, Blur,
> Directional Smooth
> Gaussion Blur
> Jaggy Despeclke
> Low Pass
> Motion Blur
> Radial Blur
> Smooth
> Soften
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> I'll have to loook at them all unless you can give me a hint.
> I'll start on that Saturday
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> Regards
> Dave
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> "Matt" <matt@kwijybo.com> wrote in message news:4926ef3e$1_2@cnews...
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>> Hunter has a point about posting in the right newsgroup for the version
>> of Corel you have. I had good luck using "Effects/Blur/Smart Blur", but
>> that effect may not be available in version 8 (I have X3).
>>
>> First you will need to mask the dress so that the other areas don't also
>> get blurred. To create the mask in this sample, I manipulated the
>> contrast levels in a copy of the image so that the black dress created
>> it's own mask, and then loaded that mask back into the original.
>>
>> But for you it may be easier to just outline the dress areas using the
>> freehand mask tool. When you outline with the mask tool, be aware of the
>> mask mode you are using. There are normal, additive, and subtractive
>> modes, represented by plus and minus icons in the mask toolbar.
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>> If you are in normal mode, each time you define a mask area, it replaces
>> the last one you outlined. So set the mode to additive and you can draw
>> the mask in sections, adding to the previous masked areas. You might also
>> want to first turn on anti-aliasing and feathering (to 3) in the mask
>> toolbar, so that the mask has a soft edge. The soft edge is only visible
>> when in Mask/Overlay mode, not marquee mode (looks like animated dashed
>> lines). The help menu has much more info on creating masks.
>>
>> When the mask is finished, save the image as a CPT file That way the mask
>> is also saved with the file, so you can go back to work on the image
>> without recreating the mask each time. Actually save as CPT from the
>> beginning and then save every 10 minutes, so if there is a problem you
>> won't lose any work.
>>
>> Now use the smart blur tool and you will see the effect only take place
>> on the masked areas. If there is no smart blur in version 8, experiment
>> with other blur tools to see if they work out.
>>
>>
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11-23-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Removing transparency
"Dave Robinson" <Dave.W.Robinson@Which.Net> wrote in message
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> When I said that your finished product looked very good, I should have
> said that it was absolutely wonderful! My neighbour would be over the
> moon if I could do that for her. I actually have 6 similar photos to sort
> out for her.
>
> I've tried all the combinations on Paint version 8 and I cannot find any
> blur effects which do anything like you have produced.
The Smart Blur effect was not introduced until Photo-Paint version 10. But
you say you're using *Paint* version 8. Corel doesn't have a product called
"Paint". Microsoft does, but that's a very limited product. Are you
referring to Photo-Paint? Painter? Paint Shop Pro?
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11-24-2008, 03:28 AM
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Re: Removing transparency
Dave,
Try again with the clone tool but set the transparency to 90% w/ 100 for the feathering. This way you will be able to build up the area affected. Try using the area immediately to the right as a "source" so that the texture / folds in the dress look more "natural".
(corrections done in X4 but same tools in your version)
Ted
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11-24-2008, 05:55 AM
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Re: Removing transparency
Corel Photo-Paint 8
"Hunter Elliott" <nospam@gatewaycity.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave Robinson" <Dave.W.Robinson@Which.Net> wrote in message
> news:4929585d$1_2@cnews...
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>> When I said that your finished product looked very good, I should have
>> said that it was absolutely wonderful! My neighbour would be over the
>> moon if I could do that for her. I actually have 6 similar photos to
>> sort out for her.
>>
>> I've tried all the combinations on Paint version 8 and I cannot find any
>> blur effects which do anything like you have produced.
>
> The Smart Blur effect was not introduced until Photo-Paint version 10. But
> you say you're using *Paint* version 8. Corel doesn't have a product
> called "Paint". Microsoft does, but that's a very limited product. Are you
> referring to Photo-Paint? Painter? Paint Shop Pro?
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11-24-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Removing transparency
> You said that you created the mask in a clever way.. How exactly did you
> do this?
I know about 1% of what is possible with mask creation and manipulation, so
this may look primitive to more skilled users, but here's a summary (I may
have actually learned this technique from a Corel newsgroup).
On a copy of the image, I used contrast enhancement (called level
equalization in version 8) from the "Adjust" menu to push the black dress
into an extreme range by sliding the input value clipping markers as shown
in the attached image.
After that I converted the image to black and white, adjusting the settings
as shown in the other attached image to complete the isolation of the area.
There were some areas that I did not want to be masked that I then painted
out. The image is actually an inverse of the area that the mask is needed
for (white is in, black is out), so either invert the black and white colors
before saving as a mask file (Image/Transform/Invert), or invert the mask
after loading it into the original image. I feathered the mask (Mask/Mask
Outline/Feather) by a factor of three and a direction of "middle".
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