Not sure if this the correct place to post, but here goes. :^)

Has anyone out there done any research, know of or have EOC? (ethernet
over copper)

Apparently this is a newer offering ISP's have. Namely XO for one. The
offering comes in certain flavors of 3, 5, 7mbps from 3rd party vendors
and 10mb and up direct from them. Being in an area that this service is
offered, I looked into it from a cost standpoint and found that you can
get a 3mbps setup for the same cost as a T1 setup. So that's twice the
bandwidth at the same cost.

Look forward to any comments you all may have.

Thanks


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I've been working with several clients in the last couple of years who
have implemented new, higher-bandwidth ethernet connections to the
internet. Started with 2mbps connections, and currently I'm seeing
10mbps coming in.

As far as connectivity goes, more is better, and it doesn't present any
particular issues I've seen. BorderManager can easily handle these
connections.

Craig Johnson
Novell Support Connection SysOp
*** For a current patch list, tips, handy files and books on
BorderManager, go to http://www.craigjconsulting.com ***

Thanks for the input! This is a hard choice to make for a few reason's.
One, changing IP's and ISP's. two, the current ISP I have is very
good, extremely reliable! But when you can get twice the bandwidth (1.5
to 3mbps) at close to same cost (my current ISP includes all fees and
taxes in their price where the others don't), it's very tempting to jump
ship! Knowing that XO is a big company, and not having found any info
on customer satisfaction as of yet, makes it hard to decide which way to
go. That's why I'm tring to find out if this newer connection type is
reliable or if I should wait a while longer to make the switch.
Do you know what vendor your clients use?


phxazcraig;1650549 Wrote:
> I've been working with several clients in the last couple of years who
> have implemented new, higher-bandwidth ethernet connections to the
> internet. Started with 2mbps connections, and currently I'm seeing
> 10mbps coming in.
>
> As far as connectivity goes, more is better, and it doesn't present
> any
> particular issues I've seen. BorderManager can easily handle these
> connections.
>
> Craig Johnson
> Novell Support Connection SysOp
> *** For a current patch list, tips, handy files and books on
> BorderManager, go to 'Craig Johnson Consulting - BorderManager,
> NetWare, and More' (http://www.craigjconsulting.com) ***


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In article <shesser.3gpoun@no-mx.forums.novell.com>, Shesser wrote:
> Do you know what vendor your clients use?
>
Depends on what is offered in the area. I don't really get into that -
I just work on the setups they bring in, and I work on them remotely
for the most part, so about all I see is an IP address to manage.

I know I have one client using something called YIPES, and also Time
Warner. (Other clients haven't told me what vendor they had, but just
the bandwidth and IP addresses).

The one client with Yipes (2mbps) and Time-Warner (10mbps) is using
both at the same time, through a Xincom load-balancing router. They
have been having problems with the Time Warner side since it was
installed, and they continue to find issues with it. They used to be
on DSL, then added the Yipes and Xincom to have more bandwidth and
redundancy, and then switched the DSL circuit out for the Time Warner
circuit. This client is in San Francisco.

Other clients of mine, from Chicago to the Caribbean island of St.
Maarten, are using Xincoms with combinations of T1's and DSL or Cable
Modems. Sometimes just multiple DSL's. It's often very cost-effective
to add an ordinary cable modem connection (could be 4-10mps for
$50/month) to a T1 connection, using a load-balancing router. (The
Xincoms were chosen for their price - under $200 - and my familiarity
with them as I learned about them when one of my clients got one).
Inbound traffic stays on the T1 line, due to it having fixed IP
addresses. Outbound traffic is biased toward the cable modem (or DSL)
line in the load-balancing router, and is mostly web browsing traffic.
Effectively this means that email is on the T1, and most web browsing
is on a cable modem, and the users see a big jump in browsing speeds.
(And email works faster too, since it gains bandwidth as traffic moves
off the T1).

Craig Johnson
Novell Support Connection SysOp
*** For a current patch list, tips, handy files and books on
BorderManager, go to http://www.craigjconsulting.com ***